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Tradition 4 · April 24

The Same Night

Daily Traditions · April 24

How a group breaks it

A group that changes its plans without asking the groups they will hurt has stopped at the first sentence of Tradition Four. Picture a small town with two meetings. The big one meets Monday; the small one, eight people who started it so a few women had a room of their own, meets Thursday. The big group's business meeting votes to add a Thursday night, same hour, two blocks away, because the coffee is better there and more people would come. Nobody calls the Thursday group. Within two months the small room is down to three and closes. The big group did nothing outside its own affairs, and it still did harm. The Long Form's second sentence (Big Book, p. 563) was written for exactly this: "But when its plans concern the welfare of neighboring groups also, those groups ought to be consulted." Consulted means asked first, as equals; not permission, not a vote by anyone above them. The Big Book gives the reason the courtesy matters (p. 561): "We alcoholics see that we must work together and hang together, else most of us will finally die alone." The drunk who needed that Thursday room is the one who pays. Test it tonight: before your group changes its time, place or format, ask which other group it will touch, and call them.

Sit with

A group can stay inside its own affairs and still close its neighbour's door. Has my group asked the groups nearby before changing anything?

Grounded in: Long form, Tradition 4 (Big Book, p. 563); The A.A. Tradition (Big Book, p. 561).

Tradition 4

"Each group should be autonomous except in matters affecting other groups or A.A. as a whole."
Read the Long Form (pp. 563–566). The short form on pp. 561–562 is the one everybody quotes — but the Long Form is where the Traditions actually say what they mean. Tradition 3's "no other affiliation" clause, for instance, exists only in the Long Form. That single clause is why no treatment centre can own an A.A. group. Most of what circulates online skips it.

And a distinction worth keeping straight: the Traditions are governance, not theology. They bind A.A. groups and the Fellowship — not individuals, and not outside businesses. They were adopted in 1950 to keep A.A. from being owned or co-opted. They are not a rulebook for your personal life.

Daily Traditions is an independent educational resource from Recovery Starts — not official A.A. literature, not affiliated with Alcoholics Anonymous World Services, and not medical advice. The Twelve Traditions are the property of A.A. Page references are to Alcoholics Anonymous (the Big Book), 4th Edition: short form 561–562, long form 563–566. If you're in crisis, call or text 988 (Suicide & Crisis Lifeline).